Command-down behaviour on files

[dmorel]

Would it be possible to have Cmnd-Down behave the same way as in the Finder for instance (or being able to configure its behaviour)? On folders it opens the folder as one would expect, but I would like it to trigger the 'Edit' menu command when run on a file, instead of executing a multiple select. I tried to modify the Edit command shortcut in the keyboard system preferences, but the new menu shortcut assignment is not taken into account at the application level (probably a custom listener lower down the event chain?). Thanks!

[JD]

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

I see what you mean. Looking at it again, it appears that Cmd-Down is the same action as a double click. Would it be reasonable to change the behavior to match the Double Click Action setting in the Preferences? It would make sense to me.

[dmorel]

What delay? Are you joking???
As for the reply, yes, I think that would make perfect sense. However I guess it requires setting up a new option as people used to the previous behaviour... well, you know the story.

[dmorel]

Now that I think of it, not sure how you'll get around to it, since adding yet another option to the preferences window will make it even harder to read than it is now... Maybe a hidden setting to activate?

[JD]

Well, no joke I usually reply quicker than that.

I hear you about the prefs. I'll think about it some... 

[spacific]

Well you live and learn. I never knew that Cmd-down was like Cmd-O for a file. That's actually a pretty weird choice, but I suppose it is slightly easier to type than Cmd-O.

What I wish Apple would do in the Finder is follow Windows in using Return or Enter to open a file: select the file, hit Return to open it. That would be so good. Using Return to rename a file is just silly -- I want to open files many more times than I want to rename them.

Fortunately our hero JD bowed to my suggestion a couple of years ago and added that feature to Yummy. We just need Apple to follow... 

[kiwi]

I would just like to add my name to the "would like to have" list…

Navigating around the Finder in list view is achieved using just the command key and the up/down arrows.

The only piece of the jigsaw that is missing here is the auto-selection of the child folder when moving up one level. i.e. when pressing cmd-up in the Desktop folder you get deposited into your home folder with the Desktop folder selected.

Any chance?

[JD]

I'll take a look!

(and sorry for not getting back to you sooner!)

[kiwi]

YES!

As far as I know Yummy is the only FTP client that selects the folder just exited with Command-Up. Including Interarchy, which pretends to be Finder-like.

Muchos gracias JD.

[JD]

Glad you find it useful

[kiwi]

Hi JD,

The original topic of this thread seems to have gotten lost in the noise.

It still baulks me when I'm switching between Finder and Yummy windows and the Cmd-Down doesn't work the same. :-(

Is it still on your list?

Cheers, Kiwi

[JD]

Hmm, I'm confused - cmd-up and cmd-down seem to work identically to the Finder in the current version of Yummy FTP: v1.8.5

Are you using an old version?

[kiwi]

Ah - I think the original issue was lost in the static :-)

The behaviour we're looking for is that the cmd-down should do the same as a double-click in (as far as I can imagine) all cases.

So it basically should perform an "open" on the object that is selected, not "extend selection" when the selected object is a file and "open" when the selected object is a folder.

(v1.8.5)

[JD]

Aha, sorry... quite a subtlety.

So the cmd-down arrow behavior is correct for folders, but for files it extends the selection rather than opening them (or performing the Double-click action specified in Preferences)

I'll take a look

[JD]

Ok, so I've started to add this to an internal build, and here's my problem now:


Double-click action = Transfer
All good

Double-click action = Edit
Reasonable to edit files on the server side, what about the Mac side? Edit in the default remote editor app, or open as if double clicked in the Finder?

Double-click action = Open Web URL
Works well for remote files, but the Mac side? The only thing that makes sense is to open them as if double clicked in the Finder


The problem is that I my opinion I'd most likely want to have local files open as if double-clicked in the Finder at all times with this specific option (cmd-downarrow) and would probably keep the remote side at Edit. Of course, that can't be done without either separate 'Double-click action' settings for the Mac and Server sides, or I purposely hard-code the cmd-downarrow option to always open local files as if double clicked in the Finder when Edit or Open Web URL are set.

It feels natural to implement the hard-coded behaviour, as cmd-e is still available to edit if required. Adding another preference setting for 'Local double-click' action would probably give the best flexibility but would it be overkill?

The other issue is multiple selections, especially those containing folders as well as files, and more so those with apps, packages and so on. Currently I've limited it to operation on a single item only to avoid this, so the moment you have two or more items selected the old extending selection behaviour kicks back in.

Comments please?