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Andreas
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Two small things
« on: December 01, 2005, 07:02:38 PM »

1) Yummy is using "Command-Shift-Q" for showing the Queue Drawer, but that's also a system wide command for logging out the current user.

2) When selecting multiple files in the list view with "Shift-Arrow Down", it's not possible to open them afterwards with "Command-Arrow Down". "Command-Arrow Right" on the other hand does open the selected folders, which is different from what the finder does. Not that the finder is a reference for anything, but consistent systems just rule.

Just tell me if it's starting to get annoying...Smiley
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Re: Two small things
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2005, 05:42:54 AM »

1) Oops. my bad. I'll correct this for the next update.

2) I'm not sure what you would expect Cmd-Down Arrow to do here. In the Finder, this opens multiple windows - one for each of the selected directories. In Yummy FTP, Cmd-Down Arrow is the shortcut for 'Enter Into Directory' and is supposed to display within the same browser window. The Cmd-Right Arrow shortcut is for 'Forward History'. To open the selected folders within the browser you only need to press the Right Arrow - this is the same as the Finder. To close them again, you need to press the Left Arrow key. Again this does not require the Cmd key and the Finder behaves the same way.

Not annoying at all! All feedback is very welcome Smiley
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Re: Two small things
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2005, 09:06:10 AM »

In Yummy FTP, Cmd-Down Arrow is the shortcut for 'Enter Into Directory' and is supposed to display within the same browser window.

I got confused by the fact that Cmd-Arrow Down opens the selected directory but doesn't if multiple directories are selected. But I see the problem - you can't just open multiple windows like the finder. I'd suggest just opening the last folder selected.
The Cmd-Right Arrow thing is stuck in my mind for an unknown reason, but as you said, using Arrow Right works perfectly fine.
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Re: Two small things
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2005, 04:20:51 AM »

Yes, I can see why you got confused. I'm not sure about just opening just the last folder in the selection range, however.

Perhaps it would be better to simply mimic the Right Arrow behaviour in this situation. This would work well in List view. For Column view, though, since only one folder at a time can display its contents, the current behaviour would have to remain.

Alternatively, there's no reason why Yummy FTP couldn't open a new FTP Browser window for each of the selected folders. It could be added and then the behaviour would match the Finder. But I question whether that's really what most people would want or expect - lots of open windows for the same server. I'd appreciate some feedback from everyone on this as a possible enhancement.
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Re: Two small things
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2005, 11:52:29 AM »

I agree, multiple windows for the same server are no good. Mimicing the Right Arrow behaviour would work, I guess, but it would be a bit strange that Cmd-Down Arrow would fire different actions, depending on the number of files selected.
Seems like there's no perfect solution for that one. All considered, I'd go with the multiple windows. Should you decide to go that way, it would be very cool if Cmd-Doubleclick would do the same for single selected folders also. And doubleclicking multiple selected folders too, of course. Smiley

While I'm on it, I think paulc made a very good point about the Aliases, and it made me ask if it would be possible to add the possibility to create standalone "Droplets" that don't require YummyFTP itself. That would be very handy for the not so computer-savvy customers of mine. I could create a Droplet, send it to them (as long as they're running an OS X version that would be supported by YummyFTP), and they'd just drop their 100MB file on it and watch the progress bar. No browser and fancy stuff.
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Re: Two small things
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2005, 06:14:28 PM »

In fact, some people have asked for a more NetFinder-like interface, possibly as an option. I think the multiple windows options you're suggesting will fill that need to a degree, so let's see what I can do...

The standalone FTP Alias is an enhancement I had already planned for Smiley
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Re: Two small things
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2005, 05:05:37 AM »

Funny, I just realized that this Cmd-Down Arrow thing I was talking about isn't really about folders but about files. I use this a lot, but wasn't aware of it.
For example: I select a few files with Shift-Down Arrow and would like to edit them with Cmd-Down Arrow (or do whatever a doubleclick on the selected files would do). Is that possible?

Looking forward to the enhanced aliases. Smiley
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Re: Two small things
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2005, 02:30:34 PM »

Yes, Cmd-Down Arrow is effectively the same as Cmd-O in the Finder, which is of course the Open command.

In Yummy FTP, Cmd-Down Arrow to edit would clash with the existing Cmd-E to edit, and it is already mapped to the Enter Into Directory option in the Listing menu, so I don't think it makes sense to make the change you're suggesting. Is Cmd-E not useful for you in this situation?
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Re: Two small things
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2005, 05:02:16 AM »

Is Cmd-E not useful for you in this situation?

It's faster to switch from Shift-Arrow Down to Cmd-Arrow Down than from Shift-Arrow Down to Cmd-E. But in the end, I certainly can get used to it.
Damn Finder. Smiley
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